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Matches 12 STR with Iocco FTDNA - 555747 (Exact 12 STR) R-S1211 SNP (Match)

Is this the same Family of Huey or another line - extract on the history of the family "Huey" into America

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"We were originally of Scotch stock, who sailed from the shores of Scotland soon after the battle of the Boyne, in Ireland in 1690, by which, the Catholics of the Northern part of the island, were defeated by the forces of King William, and opening up the country to protestant immigration. The enterprising people of the adjacent coasts of Scotland availing themselves of the opening of a fine country emigrated in considerable numbers to the Emerald Isle, landing mostly in Lon¬ donderry, and spreading out in the direction of Belfast, occupied the Counties of Down and Antrim, forming what was designated the Scotch-Irish population of that fertile portion of the country, where our immediate race of people became Irishmen, though of pure Cale¬ donian blood, and were of course in faith and practice real protestants. I have in my genealogical family bible, the names of the old fathers, whom I suppose were all respectable people, judging from the marri¬ age connections formed. My great grandfather, Hercules Huey, was the son of James Huey and Margaret Huey, the sister of Lord Hercules Ellis, and my great grandfather in turn married Katherine Perssee, daughter of Sir Richard Perssee, a gentleman of wealth and political importance in that country, and from this marriage a considerable family has sprung up." [Huey family history by Huey, Valentine Hain, 1900-].

This history would fit with many of our R-S1211 project members

Family Origins;

The surname Huey originates in Lowland Scotland, where early spellings such as Huie, Hewie, Huway, Hui, and Huey appear in the parish registers of Ayrshire, Renfrewshire, and Lanarkshire in the mid‑1600s, including forms like Hui recorded at Kilmarnock in 1671 and Huey at Beith in 1677, with an even earlier Huway appearing in 1657 at Derry Cathedral as part of a Scottish settler family. These spellings follow the Scots diminutive pattern Hugh → Hew → Hewie → Huey, a naming development that is distinctly Lowland Scots and not Irish in origin. The earliest identifiable family unit is that of Hew (Hugh) Huie or Hewie, born around 1620–1635 in Ayrshire, whose children appear in the Beith and Kilmarnock registers between 1670 and 1680, during which period the surname stabilised into the form Huey. From these Scottish parishes, Huey families migrated into Ulster during the Plantation between 1610 and 1700, settling in Antrim, Down, and Derry, where the surname first appears in Irish records only after 1650, including Margrett Huway in Derry in 1657 and multiple Huey, Huie, and Hewey families in the 1660s–1690s across the Scottish settler zones of the Laggan, Coleraine, Ballymoney, and Ballymena. No medieval Gaelic surname produces the form Huey, and there is no pre‑Plantation Irish record of the name, confirming that all Irish Hueys descend from these Lowland Scots families rather than from native Irish lineages. In the eighteenth century, Scots‑Irish Huey and Huie families from Antrim and Down migrated onward to Pennsylvania, Virginia, and the Carolinas, often recorded explicitly as Presbyterian Scots‑Irish and traceable back to Ayrshire and Renfrewshire, following the same migration stream as the McDowells, Campbells, and McKees. Although later family tradition claimed a Huguenot origin and suggested a French spelling Huet, no French or Huguenot records support this, and the Scottish parish evidence contradicts it. The deeper ancestral population of the region in which the surname formed descends from the Iron Age Novantae and Damnonii tribes, who became the Britons of Rheged and later the Kingdom of Strathclyde before being absorbed into Lowland Scots culture between 1100 and 1300, meaning the Huey line ultimately arises from the ancient Brittonic population of southwest Scotland long before the emergence of Scots language or surnames, with the documented surname itself forming only in the seventeenth century among their Lowland Scots descendants. AJB.c.

Sources;

Scottish Parish Registers (Old Parish Registers, National Records of Scotland) — Primary evidence for early surname forms Huie, Hewie, Hui, and Huey in Ayrshire, Renfrewshire, and Lanarkshire, including Kilmarnock baptisms (1671), Beith marriages (1677), and multiple Huie/Hewie entries across the 17th century.

Ulster Plantation Records (Public Record Office of Northern Ireland) — Hearth Money Rolls, Muster Rolls, and parish registers documenting the arrival of Scottish settlers bearing the names Huway, Huey, Huie, and Hewey in Antrim, Down, and Derry after 1650, including Margrett Huway at Derry Cathedral (1657).

Scots‑Irish Migration Records (1710–1770) — Passenger lists, frontier settlement rolls, and Presbyterian church registers in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and the Carolinas showing Huey/Huie families arriving from Ulster, many traceable to Antrim and Down and ultimately to Ayrshire and Renfrewshire.

Linguistic Evidence (Scottish Onomastics) — Standard Scots diminutive formation Hugh → Hew → Hewie → Huey, confirming the surname’s Lowland Scots origin and excluding Gaelic derivation; supported by the absence of any medieval Irish surname producing Huey.

Historical Geography (Brittonic Southwest Scotland) — Archaeological and historical studies of the Novantae and Damnonii tribes, the post‑Roman Kingdom of Rheged, and the early medieval Kingdom of Strathclyde, establishing the continuous Brittonic ancestry of the population in the Ayrshire–Renfrewshire region where the surname later formed.

Huey Family History (Valentine Hain Huey, 1963) — Secondary source preserving family tradition of a Huguenot origin but providing no primary documentation; included only as evidence of later tradition, not as proof of origin.

Desktop Analisis;

The royal house of Rheged, one of the most important Brittonic kingdoms of the post‑Roman north, forms the earliest historically attested ruling lineage in the region that later became Ayrshire, Renfrewshire, and Lanarkshire — the same region where the earliest Huey/Huie/Hewie families appear in the 1600s. Rheged’s most famous king, Urien Rheged (fl. c. 570), is celebrated in the Book of Taliesin as a paramount ruler of the Britons. His son Owain ap Urien succeeded him, and their dynasty continued to rule until Rheged was absorbed into the neighbouring Brittonic kingdom of Alt Clut (later known as Strathclyde). This absorption occurred through dynastic marriage and political consolidation in the 7th century, bringing the Rheged royal line into the ruling house of Strathclyde.

The kings of Strathclyde — including the historically attested Riderch Hael (Rhydderch the Generous, fl. c. 580–612), Dyfnwal ap Owain (d. 975), and Owain ap Dyfnwal (d. 1018) — ruled a Brittonic kingdom stretching across the Clyde valley, Ayrshire, Renfrewshire, Lanarkshire, and Galloway. These kings were the direct political and cultural heirs of Rheged, and their people continued to speak Cumbric, a Brittonic language closely related to Old Welsh, well into the High Middle Ages. After the 11th century, Strathclyde was gradually incorporated into the expanding Scottish kingdom, but crucially, the population remained the same. Archaeology and historical demography show no population replacement in southwest Scotland between the Iron Age and the 1600s.

By the 12th–13th centuries, the Brittonic‑speaking Strathclyde population had shifted linguistically into Early Scots, becoming the Lowland Scots of medieval Ayrshire and Renfrewshire. These people — biologically the same population as the Britons of Rheged and Strathclyde — are the ancestors who appear in the parish registers of the 1600s. It is from this population that the earliest identifiable Huey ancestor, Hew (Hugh) Huie/Hewie, born c.1620–1635 in Ayrshire, emerges. His children appear in the Beith and Kilmarnock registers between 1670 and 1680, during which the surname stabilised into the form Huey. Thus, the Huey family stands at the modern end of a continuous ancestral line that begins with the Iron Age tribes of the Novantae and Damnonii, flows through the royal house of Rheged, continues through the kings of Strathclyde, becomes the Lowland Scots population of the medieval period, and finally emerges in the 17th century as the Huey/Huie/Hewie family whose descendants later migrated to Ulster and America.

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                             Cynfarch Oer (King of Rheged)

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                             Urien Rheged (fl. c.570)

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                             Owain ap Urien (King of Rheged)

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                     Descendants absorbed into Kingdom of Strathclyde

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                     Riderch Hael (Rhydderch the Generous, fl. 580–612)

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                     Kings of Alt Clut / Strathclyde (7th–11th c.)

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                     Owain ap Dyfnwal (d. 1018, King of Strathclyde)

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                     Strathclyde Britons absorbed into Scottish realm

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                     POPULATION CONTINUITY (1100–1600)

                     Brittonic-speaking people become Lowland Scots

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                     LOWLAND SCOTS OF AYRSHIRE & RENFREWSHIRE

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                     Hew (Hugh) Huie / Hewie (b. c.1620–1635)

                     Earliest identifiable ancestor of the Huey surname

AJB.c.

contact history;

12 May 2025

Dear Mr Huey,

I found that we are matched at Family Tree DNA with the same R-S1211 y gene .

Would you be interested to join my research group, if so I have  copied the link below for you to take a look and hopefully join our group

Best Wishes, Adrian Ballard

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ballard-uk-family-finder

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